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2025 Gun Raffle Tickets for Sale!

The St. Louis Chapter MSPS fundraiser for 2025

Henry All-Weather .45-70 Raffle!

Tickets will be available for sale from Chapter Directors for $20 each, and 200 total tickets available to keep the chances of winning better. This year we will be giving away a Henry All-Weather .45-70, made in the USA. Brand new in the box. This .45-70 also features a 4-round capacity with our “best of both worlds” removable tube magazine and side loading gate configuration, sling swivel studs, a ventilated rubber recoil pad, and an internal transfer bar safety system. The Henry All-Weather .45-70 Picatinny Rail Side Gate, a scout rifle.
 
Tickets will be available in person at our upcoming chapter meetings, with the drawing after all tickets are sold! Funds will be used for our scholarship program.
 
Thank you Mark Frankenberg with BFA Engineering for this generous donation.
Golf Outing w/ IPLSA Southwest Chapter 2025

Past Meetings

End of Summer Membership Meeting - August 27th, 2025

Some Riparian Boundary Surveys and Litigation I’ve Seen– Dr. Richard L. Elgin, PS, PE

August 27th, 2025  at the James W. Rennick Riverfront Park, Washington, MO.

This meeting has been approved for 1.5 PDU’s by APEPLSPLA and is on the list of Pre-Approved Activities.

6:00 – 6:30 PM – St. Louis Chapter Business Meeting, Scholarship Fundraiser Tickets, while enjoying BBQ along the Missouri River by BFA, Inc.

6:30-7:30 PM – Presentation by Dr. Dick Elgin who will be discussing riparian boundaries and litigation examples. Outline here.

2026 Scholarship Fundraiser – Henry All-Weather Raffle .45-70 – Tickets will be available for sale from Chapter Directors for $20 each, and 200 total tickets available to keep the chances of winning better. This year we will be giving away a Henry All-Weather .45-70, made in the USA. Brand new in the box. Scroll down on our scholarship page to see more about this.
2025 Surveyor’s Cup Golf Tournament! REGISTRATION IS OPEN – SEPT. 26TH DEADLINE!!

Summer Membership Meeting - June 18th, 2025

Our June 18th Membership meeting will be held at B. Halls 2 – The Event Space of the Family Grill.

3752 Monticello Plaza Drive, O’Fallon, MO 63304.

 

We will be in the private room and attendees may order dinner and drinks from the regular menu.

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM

The presenter will be Matt Winkler & John Schaeffer, on behalf of Arch City Title, St. Louis Title, Benchmark Title and Security Title. The PDF outline for the evening’s presentation is HERE. The will be discussing title research related to surveys and the title research industry looking ahead, it is sure to be an informative and interesting evening. This will also be a great opportunity for surveyors from multiple counties, in MO & IL to meet the title company representatives.

Summer Membership Meeting - June 18th, 2025

Our June 18th Membership meeting will be held at B. Halls 2 – The Event Space of the Family Grill.

3752 Monticello Plaza Drive, O’Fallon, MO 63304.

 

We will be in the private room and attendees may order dinner and drinks from the regular menu.

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM

The presenter will be Matt Winkler & John Schaeffer, on behalf of Arch City Title, St. Louis Title, Benchmark Title and Security Title. The PDF outline for the evening’s presentation is HERE. The will be discussing title research related to surveys and the title research industry looking ahead, it is sure to be an informative and interesting evening. This will also be a great opportunity for surveyors from multiple counties, in MO & IL to meet the title company representatives.

Spring Membership Meeting - March 26th 2025

Outline for MSPSSTL – 2025 Spring Membership Meeting

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM

Location: Office of TWM, Inc. 3701 S Lindbergh Blvd Suite 100, St. Louis, MO 63127

6:00 – 6:30 PM – Business Meeting, Non-Profit organization status, Scholarship Foundation, website updates, Ongoing St. Louis City/County limits original stones located and updated database and calculations by companies on website.

6:30 – 7:00 PM – New Survey Technician program, certified by the DOL and administrated by the StL Construction Forum. St. Louis Community College’s involvement, and a description of survey courses offered, career advancement and tuition paid for by St. Louis County Workforce Development.

Presentation to membership and open discussion with Tom McGovern from St. Louis County Community College, Tom Finan & Diana Wilhold from StL Construction Forum will present.

7:00 – 7:30 PM – AI in Surveying Presentation. Daily routines with AI, short-cutting work-flows. Walk-through Microsoft Office apps with AI assistance. Thoughtful prompting for precise outputs. Surveyor’s perspectives on AI questioning, input and liability during day-to-day use.

Demonstration showcasing useful AI platforms that can create detailed presentations and deliverables for projects.

Demonstration showcasing detailed prompting to create a Python app that allows coordinate data entry and calculates results in a user created input/output form or file.

 

Winter Membership Meeting / Surveyor's Roundtable - Dec. 11th, 2024

The Winter Membership Meeting / Holiday Survey Party will be held on December 11th at the offices of Clayton Engineering – 2268 Welsch Industrial Ct., St. Louis, MO 63146.

6-8pm. We have requested 1.5 PDUs for attendance of this meeting.

There will be a Hot Dog & Bratwurst Bar catered by Steve’s Hot Dogs

We will be presenting the family of Richard J. Barr with his Final Point, commissioned by NSPS.

We will be announcing our 2024-2025 St. Louis Chapter MSPS Scholarship recipient!

And the main discussion of the evening will be the surviving stones from the 1876 St. Louis City Charter, according to a survey by Julius Pitzman & Re-Survey by Thomas Featherson followed by a surveyor’s roundtable.

The full meeting outline can be found here.

Click Here for the 1.5 PDU Certificate

Click HERE to download the Map of the location of the City Limits, according to a survey by Julius Pitzman and a Re-Survey by Thomas Featherson in its entirety.

 

Golf Outing w/ IPLSA Southwest Chapter 2024
Summer/Fall Membership Meeting - August 21st, 2024

James W. Rennick Riverfront Park, Washington, MO.

6:30 – 7 PM – St. Louis Chapter Business Meeting, Scholarship Fundraiser Tickets and presentation about a new survey credit program by Midwest Geospatial Academy, while enjoying BBQ along the Missouri River by BFA, Inc.

7-8 PM – Presentation by Judge Ike Lamke of a court case that resulted in a decision about the location of the North-South section line between Section 4 and Section 5, Township 43 N., Range 2 W of the 5th PM.

Click here for Meeting Outline

Click here for all of the Case Files & Judge Ike Lamke Introduction

Click here for the Scholarship Raffle Info. Page – $20 tickets for (1st prize) Henry 30/30 or (2nd prize) Robert E. Lee’s Map of the Harbor of St. Louis

2024 Surveyors Cup Golf Tournament

Click here for Board Approved 1.5 PDU Certificate

 

Summer Membership Meeting - July 17th, 2024

The Summer Membership Meeting will be a presentation by County Planning and GIS Officials from our region to discuss their offices and procedures.

6:00 pm to 7:30 pm at 201 N. 2nd Street, St. Charles, MO 63301

Click Here for Agenda

Click Here for Board Approved 1.5 PDU Certificate

 

Spring Membership Meeting - March 27th 2024

Seiler Instruments – 3433 Tree Court Industrial Blvd, St. Louis, MO 63122

6:30pm- 8pm

The Spring Membership Meeting will include a presentation about the St. Louis Chapter 2024 Scholarships available for SIUE, State Tech & Optional other programs with presentations about that. Surveyors in Training and Associate members are strongly encouraged to attend!

The main presentation will discussion AI implementation in the Surveying Profession: Rapidly evolving software integrations, benefits and downsides, Surveyor’s responsibilities and awareness and preparedness of the unknown.

MSPS-STL March 2024 Meeting Program

Copilot ChatGPT4 DALL-E 3 Presentaion

 

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5 days ago
StL Surveyor

October 11th, 1803.
News From Fellow Travelers.
Photo: Daniel Boone, 1820. By Chester Harding (1792-1866). Oil on canvas. Courtesy National Portrait Gallery, NPG.2015.102.

LEWIS and the boats are moving down the Ohio towards Louisville where CLARK is expecting his arrival. Just days up the Ohio River, the nephew of DANIEL BOONE, share news with THOMAS RODNEY.

NEWS OF DANIEL BOONE
BOON told me that his Unkle DANIEL, who is remarkable for having lived on Kentucky River long before it was settle by whites, has removed on the west side of the Misisipi and lives 40 miles up the Misouri;
—THOMAS RODNEY (12 October 1803)

We do not know if LEWIS crossed paths with Daniel Boone‘s nephew, but the captains were aware of Daniel’s residence near La CHARRETTE when they passed on 25 May 1804.

ROUGH NIGHT
Traveling by horse along the Ohio river was difficult. DANIEL BOONE'S nephew related the following:

He [Daniel Boone’s nephew] and his wife in coming here last night were belated and obliged to lodge in the wilderness all night without fire and her horse had mired by the river side and had thrown her in the river so that both had like to have been lost.
—THOMAS RODNEY

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October 11th, 1803.
News From Fellow Travelers.
Photo: Daniel Boone, 1820. By Chester Harding (1792-1866). Oil on canvas. Courtesy National Portrait Gallery, NPG.2015.102.

LEWIS and the boats are moving down the Ohio towards Louisville where CLARK is expecting his arrival. Just days up the Ohio River, the nephew of DANIEL BOONE, share news with THOMAS RODNEY.

NEWS OF DANIEL BOONE
BOON told me that his Unkle DANIEL, who is remarkable for having lived on Kentucky River long before it was settle by whites, has removed on the west side of the Misisipi and lives 40 miles up the Misouri;
—THOMAS RODNEY (12 October 1803)

We do not know if LEWIS crossed paths with Daniel Boone‘s nephew, but the captains were aware of Daniel’s residence near La CHARRETTE when they passed on 25 May 1804.

ROUGH NIGHT
Traveling by horse along the Ohio river was difficult. DANIEL BOONES nephew related the following:

He [Daniel Boone’s nephew] and his wife in coming here last night were belated and obliged to lodge in the wilderness all night without fire and her horse had mired by the river side and had thrown her in the river so that both had like to have been lost.
—THOMAS RODNEY

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6 days ago
StL Surveyor

October 10th, 1803.
The Kentucky River.
Photo: Kentucky River Mouth c. 1908. Courtesy www.nkyviews.com. Used with permission.
The text at the bottom of this photo says: “At the meeting of the ways. Kentucky River joins the Ohio River.”

MERIWETHER LEWIS and his flotilla of boats move down the Ohio towards a rendezvous with WILLIAM CLARK at the FALLS OF THE OHIO. He may have reached the Kentucky River, described here by THOMAS RODNEY.

THE KENTUCKY RIVER
On 11 October 1803, just a few days behind LEWIS, THOMAS RODNEY describes the mouth of the KENTUCKY RIVER and PORT WILLIAM, now known as CARROLLTON:

"We passed the mouth of Kentucky River. This is a large river about the size of the Great Kanawa at [blank] but not so deep as there appears drift wood in it.

There is a pretty little town on the uper side with 6 or 7 brick houses in it and 15 to 20 wooden ones. The situation is pleasant.
—THOMAS RODNEY (11 October 1803)"

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October 10th, 1803.
The Kentucky River.
Photo:  Kentucky River Mouth c. 1908. Courtesy https://www.nkyviews.com. Used with permission.
The text at the bottom of this photo says: “At the meeting of the ways. Kentucky River joins the Ohio River.”

MERIWETHER LEWIS and his flotilla of boats move down the Ohio towards a rendezvous with WILLIAM CLARK at the FALLS OF THE OHIO. He may have reached the Kentucky River, described here by THOMAS RODNEY.

THE KENTUCKY RIVER
On 11 October 1803, just a few days behind LEWIS, THOMAS RODNEY describes the mouth of the KENTUCKY RIVER and PORT WILLIAM, now known as CARROLLTON:

We passed the mouth of Kentucky River. This is a large river about the size of the Great Kanawa at [blank] but not so deep as there appears drift wood in it.

There is a pretty little town on the uper side with 6 or 7 brick houses in it and 15 to 20 wooden ones. The situation is pleasant.
—THOMAS RODNEY (11 October 1803)

 #LifeOfASurveyor #MissouriSocietyOfProfessionalSurveyors #SurveyorsHistoricalSociety
1 week ago
StL Surveyor

October 9, 1803.
Young Islands.
Photo: Gunpowder Creek and Ohio River. Photo by Ryan Abrahamsen, Terrain 360. Explore the Gunpowder Creek 360Âș Spherical Image Map at www.terrain360.com/trail/gunpowder-creek.

On or near this date, LEWIS leaves the Big Bone Lick landing at Gunpowder Creek and proceeds towards Louisville and the Falls of the Ohio where WILLIAM CLARK is expecting him. Fellow traveler THOMAS RODNEY describes that section of the Ohio River with its “young” islands.

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October 9, 1803.
Young Islands.
Photo:  Gunpowder Creek and Ohio River.  Photo by Ryan Abrahamsen, Terrain 360. Explore the Gunpowder Creek 360Âș Spherical Image Map at www.terrain360.com/trail/gunpowder-creek.

On or near this date, LEWIS leaves the Big Bone Lick landing at Gunpowder Creek and proceeds towards Louisville and the Falls of the Ohio where WILLIAM CLARK is expecting him. Fellow traveler THOMAS RODNEY describes that section of the Ohio River with its “young” islands.

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1 week ago
StL Surveyor

October 7th, 1803.
The Long Mastadon Tusk.
Photo: Mastodon Herd-Charles R. Knight (1874–1953). Image is in the public domain.

Many scientists in 1803 expected that live specimens of the animals found in the fossil record would also be found by the LEWIS and CLARK EXPEDITION. Extinction was an emerging concept and unproven.

On or near this date, LEWIS finishes loading THOMAS JEFFERSON'S fossils onto the barge (or other boat) at the Ohio River landing below Big Bone Lick. Fellow traveler THOMAS RODNEY was disappointed that LEWIS had taken all the larger bones including a large tusk.

Contemporary traveler THOMAS RODNEY arrived at the Big Bone Lick shortly after LEWIS had left. RODNEY reports that LEWIS got the best specimens:

"Captain Lewes [Lewis] had got the long tusk lately found and one or another has carried of[f] the larger bones; but the situation and circumstances of these licks shew that they have been long frequented and much more formerly than latterly. [I also got a small piece that had scaled off from the great tusk that Lewies had taken . . . .
—THOMAS RODNEY (10 October 1803)"

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October 7th, 1803.
The Long Mastadon Tusk.
Photo:  Mastodon Herd-Charles R. Knight (1874–1953).  Image is in the public domain.

Many scientists in 1803 expected that live specimens of the animals found in the fossil record would also be found by the LEWIS and CLARK EXPEDITION. Extinction was an emerging concept and unproven.

On or near this date, LEWIS finishes loading THOMAS JEFFERSONS fossils onto the barge (or other boat) at the Ohio River landing below Big Bone Lick. Fellow traveler THOMAS RODNEY was disappointed that LEWIS had taken all the larger bones including a large tusk.

Contemporary traveler THOMAS RODNEY arrived at the Big Bone Lick shortly after LEWIS had left. RODNEY reports that LEWIS got the best specimens:

Captain Lewes [Lewis] had got the long tusk lately found and one or another has carried of[f] the larger bones; but the situation and circumstances of these licks shew that they have been long frequented and much more formerly than latterly. [I also got a small piece that had scaled off from the great tusk that Lewies had taken . . . .
—THOMAS RODNEY (10 October 1803)

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2 weeks ago
StL Surveyor

October 4th, 1803.
To Big Bone Lick.
Photo: Map of Big Bone Lick c. 1831. from William Cooper’s Paper on Big Bone Lick, 1831.
William Cooper provides two early maps and a “Chronological Notice of the Explorers of Big-bone Lick” summarized here:

1739: Longueil is given bones by some Indians in his party
1765: Colonel George Croghan is first white visitor
1795: General William H. Harrison and French general Collaud, in separate parties
1804: Dr. Goforth of Cincinnati
1806: William Clark

On or near this date, LEWIS leaves Cincinnati for the Big Bone Lick fossil diggings. There, he expects to collect specimens to send to THOMAS JEFFERSON. Unfortunately, the owner of the site has ordered the removal of fossils stopped.

Elsewhere, tensions rise between Spain and the United States over the Louisiana Purchase.

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October 4th, 1803.
To Big Bone Lick.
Photo:   Map of Big Bone Lick c. 1831.  from William Cooper’s Paper on Big Bone Lick, 1831. 
William Cooper provides two early maps and a “Chronological Notice of the Explorers of Big-bone Lick” summarized here:

1739: Longueil is given bones by some Indians in his party
1765: Colonel George Croghan is first white visitor
1795: General William H. Harrison and French general Collaud, in separate parties
1804: Dr. Goforth of Cincinnati
1806: William Clark

On or near this date, LEWIS leaves Cincinnati for the Big Bone Lick fossil diggings. There, he expects to collect specimens to send to THOMAS JEFFERSON. Unfortunately, the owner of the site has ordered the removal of fossils stopped.

Elsewhere, tensions rise between Spain and the United States over the Louisiana Purchase.

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2 weeks ago
StL Surveyor

October 3rd, 1803.
Spoiled Smallpox Vaccine.
Photo: Ivory Vaccination Lancet. © 2023 by John W. Fisher. The ions, oxides, and salts present in metals could destroy the inoculant material. Hence, the use of ivory lancets like that shown above was common. The material was sometimes stored and administered from quills or thread.

LEWIS writes a letter to PRESIDENT JEFFERSON describing his time in Cincinnati. He tells JEFFERSON that his kinepox vaccine—used to prevent smallpox—has spoiled and also asks for a copy of the Louisiana Purchase treaty.

While in Paris in 1787, JEFFERSON and his slave SALLY HEMMINGS received their inoculations and since at least 1800, he had been working with various physicians to inoculate Americans against smallpox using the kinepox vaccine. The vaccine was originally collected from pustules of infected cattle in Europe.

Within a community, new inoculant material could be collected from the kinepox pustules of those successfully inoculated. Because the infected matter was difficult to store for more than two weeks, successfully transporting it to North America delayed its use there for many years and attempts to harvest the vaccine from North American cattle was not successful until after 1850.

In simplest terms, kinepox vaccine was difficult to maintain while traveling. The only method Lewis had while moving down the Ohio was to inoculate his crew, wait seven to nine days for their pustules to mature, and collect fresh material from that person. By 3 October 1803, the material Lewis was using failed to infect any recipients. There appears to be no record of Lewis ever receiving a new and effective supply.

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October 3rd, 1803.
Spoiled Smallpox Vaccine.
Photo:  Ivory Vaccination Lancet. © 2023 by John W. Fisher. The ions, oxides, and salts present in metals could destroy the inoculant material. Hence, the use of ivory lancets like that shown above was common. The material was sometimes stored and administered from quills or thread.

LEWIS writes a letter to PRESIDENT JEFFERSON describing his time in Cincinnati. He tells JEFFERSON that his kinepox vaccine—used to prevent smallpox—has spoiled and also asks for a copy of the Louisiana Purchase treaty.

While in Paris in 1787, JEFFERSON and his slave SALLY HEMMINGS received their inoculations and since at least 1800, he had been working with various physicians to inoculate Americans against smallpox using the kinepox vaccine. The vaccine was originally collected from pustules of infected cattle in Europe.

Within a community, new inoculant material could be collected from the kinepox pustules of those successfully inoculated. Because the infected matter was difficult to store for more than two weeks, successfully transporting it to North America delayed its use there for many years and attempts to harvest the vaccine from North American cattle was not successful until after 1850.

In simplest terms, kinepox vaccine was difficult to maintain while traveling. The only method Lewis had while moving down the Ohio was to inoculate his crew, wait seven to nine days for their pustules to mature, and collect fresh material from that person. By 3 October 1803, the material Lewis was using failed to infect any recipients. There appears to be no record of Lewis ever receiving a new and effective supply.

 #MissouriSocietyOfProfessionalSurveyors #LifeOfASurveyor #SurveyorsHistoricalSociety
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